armbian for arm64's is 99% debian testing for arm64's.

[gene heskett]

But its dfu-util is truly ancient at version 0.9
version 0.10 has been available for several years if I read ticket dates
on sourceforge correctly.

dfu-util-v0.9 on a banana pi m5, cannot do any dfu-utils duties. sudo
dfu-util -l only lists the authors, no dfu capable devices on the bpi5

Where can I get version 0.10? Or 0.11 if that is out?

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

Hello Gene!

Post by gene heskett
But its dfu-util is truly ancient at version 0.9
version 0.10 has been available for several years if I read ticket dates on sourceforge correctly.
dfu-util-v0.9 on a banana pi m5, cannot do any dfu-utils duties. sudo dfu-util -l only lists the authors, no dfu capable devices on the bpi5
Where can I get version 0.10? Or 0.11 if that is out?

Both Debian testing and unstable have 0.11, so you might want to update your
system to Debian testing or ask the maintainer to make an upload to Debian
Backports for Debian bullseye.

Adrian

[gene heskett]

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Gene!

Post by gene heskett
But its dfu-util is truly ancient at version 0.9
version 0.10 has been available for several years if I read ticket
dates on sourceforge correctly.
dfu-util-v0.9 on a banana pi m5, cannot do any dfu-utils duties. sudo
dfu-util -l only lists the authors, no dfu capable devices on the bpi5
Where can I get version 0.10? Or 0.11 if that is out?

Both Debian testing and unstable have 0.11, so you might want to update your
system to Debian testing or ask the maintainer to make an upload to Debian
Backports for Debian bullseye.
Adrian

I have 4 of the bpi5'd and I know how to run dd. Will the weekly work on
a bpi5, gradually becoming bookworm if kept up to date?

Cheers, Gene Heskett.

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 03:59:42PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:

Hi Gene,

Armbian != Debian. What they may choose to do - who knows. They might even cause
a Wicked Witch of the West to appear and threaten Toto whenever there's a
problem.

If you want support on the Banana Pi m5, you'll need to find someone else
who's got one / hang out on IRC on debian-arm or debian-boot and see
if you can find someone like Vagrant Cascadian to help (vagrantc).

Strictly, there's nothing we can do to help whatever they've done or not
done in Armbian or whatever hacks they've persuaded their board to work
with.

Their "Debian" image is still Buster.

Their Armbian image is listed as third party supplied - so they don't
necessarily know how to debug it ...

Ask at Armbian?

All best, as ever,

Andy Cater

Post by gene heskett
But its dfu-util is truly ancient at version 0.9
version 0.10 has been available for several years if I read ticket dates on
sourceforge correctly.
dfu-util-v0.9 on a banana pi m5, cannot do any dfu-utils duties. sudo
dfu-util -l only lists the authors, no dfu capable devices on the bpi5
Where can I get version 0.10? Or 0.11 if that is out?
Thanks.
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis
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[Diederik de Haas]

Post by Andrew M.A. Cater
hang out on IRC on debian-arm or debian-boot

Or #armbian on libera

[Paul Wise]

Post by Andrew M.A. Cater

Post by gene heskett
But its dfu-util is truly ancient at version 0.9

Armbian != Debian.

While that is true, it seems that Armbian is an overlay derivative,
which means that they just use Debian binaries for most packages,
including for dfu-util, so the problem being complained about (the
outdated packages in stable releases) is an issue in Debian too.

https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census/Armbian

None of the Armbian apt pools include dfu-util:

https://apt.armbian.com/armbian/apt/pool/main/

https://apt.armbian.com/armbian/apt/pool/sid-desktop/
https://apt.armbian.com/armbian/apt/pool/sid-utils/

The answer is as mentioned earlier; backports or unstable/testing.

https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/9b04ea86-c04a-62f0-1764-***@physik.fu-berlin.de

[Diederik de Haas]

Post by Paul Wise

Post by Andrew M.A. Cater
Armbian != Debian.

While that is true, it seems that Armbian is an overlay derivative,
which means that they just use Debian binaries for most packages,

While that is also true, Armbian does make their own kernel, with custom
configuration and patches, and their own (patched) u-boot.
And IMO those are the 2 most important parts when it comes to whether hardware
works or not and any issues that may stem from that.

So while technically it likely is true that armbian is 99% Debian, I would be
cautious with inviting armbian users to Debian's support channels.

I don't foresee any issue with using 'dfu-util' from Debian though.

[Jeffrey Walton]

Post by gene heskett
But its dfu-util is truly ancient at version 0.9
version 0.10 has been available for several years if I read ticket dates
on sourceforge correctly.
dfu-util-v0.9 on a banana pi m5, cannot do any dfu-utils duties. sudo
dfu-util -l only lists the authors, no dfu capable devices on the bpi5
Where can I get version 0.10? Or 0.11 if that is out?

The search results for "armbian package search" suck. The only hit is
a static page at https://www.armbian.com/kernel/ .

An 'apt-cache show dfu-util' shows some information, but not the
upstream source code repository.

It looks like Debian's dfu-util package page at
https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/dfu-util says
dfu-util.sourceforge.net, but I am not sure how accurate it is for
Armbian. The Sourceforge pasy says the current release is 0.11.

Jeff

[gene heskett]

Post by Jeffrey Walton

Post by gene heskett
But its dfu-util is truly ancient at version 0.9
version 0.10 has been available for several years if I read ticket dates
on sourceforge correctly.
dfu-util-v0.9 on a banana pi m5, cannot do any dfu-utils duties. sudo
dfu-util -l only lists the authors, no dfu capable devices on the bpi5
Where can I get version 0.10? Or 0.11 if that is out?

The search results for "armbian package search" suck. The only hit is
a static page at https://www.armbian.com/kernel/ .
An 'apt-cache show dfu-util' shows some information, but not the
upstream source code repository.
It looks like Debian's dfu-util package page at
https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/dfu-util says
dfu-util.sourceforge.net, but I am not sure how accurate it is for
Armbian. The Sourceforge pasy says the current release is 0.11.
Jeff
.

I'm the OP and what is in the recent armbian they claim is debian
testing is 0.9, years old, and apparently hasn't a clue how to work with
usb-3 ports like the bpi5 has 4 of. Yet octoprint works just fine thru
the same port and cabling. Mutter.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.