Porting debian on Nvidia tegra 2

[Divya Subramanian]

Hi,

I am trying to port debian on Samsung galaxy Tab 10.1, working on Nvidia
Tegra 2 processor. I am a newbie. Can anyone help?



Regards,

Divya Subramanian

[Gordan Bobic]

You should be able to get this working pretty trivially in a chroot. Google for running Linux in a chroot on Android. Running it as the primary OS on tablets tends to be suboptimal due to the UI constraints of tablets.

Hi,
I am trying to port debian on Samsung galaxy Tab 10.1, working on Nvidia Tegra  2 processor. I am a newbie. Can anyone help?
 
Regards,
Divya Subramanian

[Paul Wise]

Post by Gordan Bobic
You should be able to get this working pretty trivially in a chroot

https://wiki.debian.org/ChrootOnAndroid

Post by Gordan Bobic
Running it as the primary OS on tablets tends to be suboptimal
due to the UI constraints of tablets.

The Enlightenment desktop has a touch-friendly interface, if your
Android Linux kernel isn't buggy.

http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/log/2012/12/03/debian-mobile/
https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile
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[Divya Subramanian]

How is it suboptimal? I could not understand how UI constraints come into
scene .


Regards,

Divya Subramanian

Post by Gordan Bobic
You should be able to get this working pretty trivially in a chroot.
Google for running Linux in a chroot on Android. Running it as the primary
OS on tablets tends to be suboptimal due to the UI constraints of tablets.
Hi,
I am trying to port debian on Samsung galaxy Tab 10.1, working on Nvidia
Tegra 2 processor. I am a newbie. Can anyone help?
Regards,
Divya Subramanian

[Gordan Bobic]

Lack of a keyboard and an accurate pointing device for a start.

How is it suboptimal? I could not understand how  UI constraints come
into scene .
 Regards,
Divya Subramanian

Post by Gordan Bobic
You should be able to get this working pretty trivially in a chroot.
Google for running Linux in a chroot on Android. Running it as the
primary OS on tablets tends to be suboptimal due to the UI
constraints of tablets.
Hi,
I am trying to port debian on Samsung galaxy Tab 10.1, working on
Nvidia Tegra  2 processor. I am a newbie. Can anyone help?
 
Regards,
Divya Subramanian

[Divya Subramanian]

but ubunu touch has been ported to Nexus device. How was that possible?


Regards,

Divya Subramanian

Post by Gordan Bobic
Lack of a keyboard and an accurate pointing device for a start.

Post by Divya Subramanian
How is it suboptimal? I could not understand how UI constraints come
into scene .
Regards,
Divya Subramanian
You should be able to get this working pretty trivially in a chroot.

Post by Gordan Bobic
Google for running Linux in a chroot on Android. Running it as the
primary OS on tablets tends to be suboptimal due to the UI
constraints of tablets.
Hi,
I am trying to port debian on Samsung galaxy Tab 10.1, working on
Nvidia Tegra 2 processor. I am a newbie. Can anyone help?
Regards,
Divya Subramanian

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[Gordan Bobic]

It's a question of usability, not just from the point of view
of the desktop but from the point of view of the apps.

Android apps are designed from ground up with the touch interface
in mind. Desktop apps are designed with the keyboard/mouse
interface as the primary intended use method.

Post by Divya Subramanian
but ubunu touch has been ported to Nexus device. How was that
possible?
 Regards,
Divya Subramanian

Post by Gordan Bobic
Lack of a keyboard and an accurate pointing device for a start.
How is it suboptimal? I could not understand how  UI constraints come
into scene .
 Regards,
Divya Subramanian
You should be able to get this working pretty trivially in a
chroot.
Google for running Linux in a chroot on Android. Running it as the
primary OS on tablets tends to be suboptimal due to the UI
constraints of tablets.
Hi,
I am trying to port debian on Samsung galaxy Tab 10.1, working on
Nvidia Tegra  2 processor. I am a newbie. Can anyone help?
 
Regards,
Divya Subramanian

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[Chris Moore]

Hi,

There is a great Android app called "Debian Kit" :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dyndns.sven_ola.debian_kit
This installs Debian Squeeze (or Ubuntu) in parallel with Android (not
in a chroot or a dual boot).
If you want Wheezy look here at http://www.doviak.net for a modified script.

I don't have a Samsung galaxy Tab 10.1 but it works fine on my cheapo
tablet.

HTH.

Cheers,
Chris

Post by Gordan Bobic
It's a question of usability, not just from the point of view
of the desktop but from the point of view of the apps.
Android apps are designed from ground up with the touch interface
in mind. Desktop apps are designed with the keyboard/mouse
interface as the primary intended use method.

Post by Divya Subramanian
but ubunu touch has been ported to Nexus device. How was that
possible?
Regards,
Divya Subramanian

Post by Gordan Bobic
Lack of a keyboard and an accurate pointing device for a start.
How is it suboptimal? I could not understand how UI constraints come
into scene .
Regards,
Divya Subramanian
You should be able to get this working pretty trivially in a
chroot.
Google for running Linux in a chroot on Android. Running it as the
primary OS on tablets tends to be suboptimal due to the UI
constraints of tablets.
Hi,
I am trying to port debian on Samsung galaxy Tab 10.1, working on
Nvidia Tegra 2 processor. I am a newbie. Can anyone help?
Regards,
Divya Subramanian

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[Divya Subramanian]

I have tried this but I want debian to be installed as Primary OS.
Following Ubuntu-touch porting instructions, they are flashing a image, but
no information is given on how to create that image. If anyone could tell
me how is the boot image created then it would have been a great help.
There is an application which helps to flash images.

Regards,

Divya Subramanian

Post by Chris Moore
Hi,
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dyndns.
sven_ola.debian_kit
This installs Debian Squeeze (or Ubuntu) in parallel with Android (not in
a chroot or a dual boot).
If you want Wheezy look here at http://www.doviak.net for a modified script.
I don't have a Samsung galaxy Tab 10.1 but it works fine on my cheapo
tablet.
HTH.
Cheers,
Chris
It's a question of usability, not just from the point of view

Post by Gordan Bobic
of the desktop but from the point of view of the apps.
Android apps are designed from ground up with the touch interface
in mind. Desktop apps are designed with the keyboard/mouse
interface as the primary intended use method.

Post by Divya Subramanian
but ubunu touch has been ported to Nexus device. How was that possible?
Regards,
Divya Subramanian
Lack of a keyboard and an accurate pointing device for a start.

Post by Divya Subramanian
How is it suboptimal? I could not understand how UI constraints come
into scene .
Regards,
Divya Subramanian
You should be able to get this working pretty trivially in a chroot.
Google for running Linux in a chroot on Android. Running it as the
primary OS on tablets tends to be suboptimal due to the UI
constraints of tablets.
Hi,
I am trying to port debian on Samsung galaxy Tab 10.1, working on
Nvidia Tegra 2 processor. I am a newbie. Can anyone help?
Regards,
Divya Subramanian

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[Paul Wise]

Post by Divya Subramanian
I have tried this but I want debian to be installed as Primary OS.
Following Ubuntu-touch porting instructions, they are flashing a image, but
no information is given on how to create that image. If anyone could tell me
how is the boot image created then it would have been a great help. There is
an application which helps to flash images.

They basically take the CyanogenMod/Android version of the Linux
kernel for the specific device and merge that into a normal Ubuntu
touch install. Then they grab binary blobs from CyanogenMod/Android
and merge those too.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting

This approach is not suitable for Debian because we only support one
version of the Linux kernel. Debian will only officially support
mobile devices when people start merging support for them to Linux
mainline. In the meantime what you can do depends on how locked down
your bootloader is and how easily you can modify your Linux
kernel+initramfs partition.
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[Divya Subramanian]

how is the merging done and how are the binary blobs grabbed and merged ?

Post by Divya Subramanian

Post by Divya Subramanian
I have tried this but I want debian to be installed as Primary OS.
Following Ubuntu-touch porting instructions, they are flashing a image,

but

Post by Divya Subramanian
no information is given on how to create that image. If anyone could

tell me

Post by Divya Subramanian
how is the boot image created then it would have been a great help.

There is

Post by Divya Subramanian
an application which helps to flash images.

They basically take the CyanogenMod/Android version of the Linux
kernel for the specific device and merge that into a normal Ubuntu
touch install. Then they grab binary blobs from CyanogenMod/Android
and merge those too.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
This approach is not suitable for Debian because we only support one
version of the Linux kernel. Debian will only officially support
mobile devices when people start merging support for them to Linux
mainline. In the meantime what you can do depends on how locked down
your bootloader is and how easily you can modify your Linux
kernel+initramfs partition.
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[Paul Wise]

Post by Divya Subramanian
how is the merging done and how are the binary blobs grabbed and merged ?

The wiki page explains this:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
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